When I first read the topic “A public speaker I admire and
why”, all I could think was that there
are far too many! How can I choose one? Still, I keep coming becoming back to
this thought: Within science there are so many great speakers and some of them
are well known and some of them are not. Then I had a light bulb moment! “Wait
a minute, why does this have to be about science!”, and isn't just a great communicator what this is all about?
At this point two names popped into my head; Christopher
Hitchens and Stephen Fry. These are two expert communicators I enjoy hearing. I
can’t pick one so I am going to choose, and explain, an extraordinary moment
when these two people joined together in a debate! It’s not actually breaking the rules for the
blog… I am merely modifying them!
Sadly Christopher Hitchens passed away on 15th
December, 2011.
Both Hitchens and Fry are authors who have each written many
books. Most people are more familiar with Stephen Fry's acting rather than his
books. Fry is associated with comedy acting more so than his extraordinary
ability as a dramatic actor or taking part in intelligent debate.
The debate I want to talk about took place in 2009, hosted
by Intelligence Squared. Intelligence Squared is an organisation, founded in
2002, which stages debates around the world. The debates are held in
traditional Oxford style with as many as 2,500 attending some events. Stephen
Fry and Christopher Hitchens comprised one team in this debate. The opposition
team consisted of Ann Widdecombe (a British MP) and John Olorunfemi Onaiyekan,
the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Abuja. They were debating the motion: The
Catholic Church is a force for good in the world.
{My comment here: I have linked to the full debate and if
this interests you then it is worth the time to listen and watch. But I do need
to warn people if you find debate over religion and the use of religion
offensive please do not watch the video.}
In this debate you can see the pure class of both Hitchens
and Fry. They make their points in the
debate with humour and decisiveness. To be honest Fry does it better then
Hitchens, while making Bishop Onaiyekan and Widdecombe, who are good public
speakers in their own right, look trapped and ineffectual.
Fry and Hitchens are wordsmiths of the highest calibre, having
a mastery of language that is outstanding and awe-inspiring. Their intelligence
is abundantly apparent in that they so easily and quickly adapt to, and
counter, the arguments of the opposing side. In fact they didn’t just adapt to
the arguments from the other side, they destroyed them. They annihilated them. On
top of this their stage presence holds your attention to an amazing degree. It
is mesmerising.
To give an example (and I am paraphrasing), the topic of the
harm done by the Catholic Church in respect to the ongoing hiding of priests
who have molested children emerged.
Ann Widdecombe expressed disbelief that this topic was brought
up at all and felt it was no longer an issue needing to be dealt with.
Stephen Fry’s answer was the best I have heard: The Catholic
Church not wanting this issue brought forward and complaining that it was,
indeed, brought forward is "like a burglar standing before the court
complaining that the police were bringing up all the burglaries he had committed".
If, in time, I could develop one twentieth of their ability
as a public speaker and debater of science and critical thinking I would have reached
the lofty company of great speakers. Fry and Hitchens are true masters of the
art and people I will always look up to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrIHw0fZNOA
Hi Cam,
ReplyDeleteWhat a great debate. It was almost if the pro side had admitted defeat when Ann Widdecombe said "it's because of the wicked catholic church" and I realise she was being facetious. But by just saying it, in a debate like this was probably not too wise. It has also shown me that you should never insult the intelligence of your audience. How did she expect to convince them she is in the right while telling the audience they wouldn't understand, well of course not, she didn't explain it. Thank you for that, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Hello Michele, I am glad you liked it. The subject is not for everyone. I think that debate could have been very different if Hitchens and Fry were not so amazing a what they do! I don't think anyone could have stood against them. Cam
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